Indian RAW vs. Pakistan ISI: Questioning Intelligence

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Difference between Indian RAW and Pakistan ISI

A lack of proper intelligence was noticed after India faced war with Pakistan in 1965. The Indian External Intelligence Agency known as RAW (Research and Analysis Wing), was formed in 1968. RAW mainly collects external intelligence regarding acts against terrorism and even advises Indian foreign policymakers. ISI (inter-services Intelligence) is the major intelligence agency in Pakistan and was basically set up to strengthen Pakistan’s military intelligence in 1948. Before the ISI was formed as an independent unit, it was a part of Pakistan’s Intelligence Bureau. It had its headquarters in Rawalpindi at the time of establishment but later was shifted to Islamabad.

Indian RAW
Pakistan ISI

History

Before RAW came into existence all the intelligence was handled by a body called Intelligence Bureau (IB) which was established by the British. After India faced two consecutive wars in 1962 and 1965, failure in the field of intelligence was exposed. In 1966, the idea of a separate intelligence agency took shape and was implemented in 1968 under the leadership Mrs. Indira Gandhi. At the time of independence in 1947, Pakistan created two major intelligence agencies; IB and Military Intelligence (MI). After the failure of MI in a 1947 dispute, a newer well-organized agency called the Inter-Services Intelligence came into existence. It contained officials from all the three military wings which are the Army, Navy and Air Force. 

Objectives

The major objectives of RAW include gathering information about the military and political developments in adjoining nations and monitoring the international public opinion with the help of Indians scattered throughout the world. After the indo-Pakistan war, one of the objectives was to limit the supply of military equipments to Pakistan from European nations, America and more importantly from China. ISI focuses on information gathering by both secret and open means but aggressive techniques are also employed. ISI is known to work on counterintelligence and in making relations with foreign intelligence agencies. A 2010 report based on interviews with Taliban commanders in Afghanistan, revealed to an interviewer that the ISI not only has direct links to the Taliban but the ISI opts for an "official policy" for funding, training and supporting the Taliban. Even the Quetta Shura, who represents the leadership for the Taliban is believed to meet in Pakistan. This poses several serious questions that have yet to be answered.

Major Operations

Some of the major RAW operations include ELINT which was carried out in collaboration with the CIA to track the progress of China in the nuclear developments field. It played a vital role in the formation of Bangladesh. Operation Chanakya was carried out under the supervision of RAW in Kashmir against terrorism in which it was successful in splitting the terrorist group Hizb-ul–Mujahidin. ISI has carried out major operations in India and Afghanistan. ISI helped the Sikh movement in Punjab which aimed to succeed in the formation of Khalistan. ISI is also blamed for its secret support to militant groups in Kashmir region against the Indian government.

Summary

RAW

  • Established in 1968
  • Before RAW, Intelligence Bureau carried out all the operations
  • Information gathering and monitoring international public opinion are some major objectives
  • After Indo-Pakistan war it aimed at limiting military supply to Pakistan
  • Operations like ELINT and Chanakya were carried out by RAW

ISI

  • Current headquarters in Islamabad
  • It was created after the failure of MI (Military Intelligence)
  • Counterintelligence and making relations with other agencies fall into its objectives category
  • Its major operations are carried out in India and Afghanistan
  • In 2010, according Wikipedia, the ISI has been linked to Taliban as the meeting place of the Taliban’s leadership and as a source for funding, training and support.

Which organization is more suspicious?
  • Indian RAW
  • Pakistan ISI
 
 

Discuss It: comments 49

isi rules.........

No offence dude,But did you read what this guy wrote here? What made you think that ISI rules? What good things is it doing ?

None, agree with Sunil here. f*** ISI...

Did you mean ISI sucks. They are responsible for so many problems in Asian sub continent and abroad. Shame on them...

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  • army wrote on November 2011

yr dekh rama bat srf itni si hai k tri pori nasla ki gand main kutty ka lun or bus...

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  • parvez wrote on January 2012

o rama kutty tu kya isi sy apni family ko chodwana chahta hai? tu to kafir hai jo aisi bakwas kar raha hai. laanati. GO TO ****

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  • Jus Singh wrote on May 2013

ISI has many terrorist links U know

if you don't know truth about "ISI" then you should keep your mouth shut down.ok

Why don't you shut your mouth moron.

oyee Allah ka shukar ha puri duniya pakistan ka ISI say darti ha or ma khud inshaAllah is ma jao ga

You are a big idiot, World is not scared of ISI, they hate ISI.

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  • shair wrote on February 2011

o you idiot even your millitary is scared of isi you are going to laugh at this of yours country phobia yours moms especially of armys scare your children from isi to get to sleep or might be the case with your leaders as well

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  • army wrote on November 2011

ajhar vasy hai tu bi ksi behnchod ka bacha....

ISI objectives is to safe Pakistan from America , India and Israel collations, No wounder ISI has a major part in developing Pakistan Foreign Policy but they work for to safe the country objective,,, One more thing ISI is more experiences than CIA , RAW or MOSSAD they know how to throw American from Afghanishtan.

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  • jEOPARDY wrote on November 2010

I agree with u dude that ISI's motive is to protect pakistan from potential threats....but looking at their acts i afraid u r wrong. their major objective has been to create menace in India. although they are afraid of Indians to accept it openly. isi's existence wud b in danger if they wont stop now. No need to give reason, hope u remember 65 71 and 99.

you cant see what india is doing to pakistan begladeshi mukti bahinis blasting every where in pak now through afghanistan in khyber pakhtoonkhwa in balochistan and on mumbai sort of attack you are blaming pakistan which could be an inside job of your country and what do you think of cia raw mossad doing in pakistan if these type agencies were operating in india india might have gone boom you should instead credit isi pak army to be standing alone to their resistance

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  • Bakhtiyaar ali wrote on December 2011

i agree with you dude,we are doing that in afghanistan,baloochistan and peshawar,but its totally diplomacy that's cent percent true and fine for your political situation,you people deserve that.Have you forgotten what we did to your army and agents in the three consecutive wars,your army gets scared,even if somebody says RAW!next thing you say is ISI,well it is older and stronger than even CIA or our friendly agencies FSB or MOSSAD,but you know,world thinks that ISI isnt a intelligence agency,but whereas it is a bunch of stupid army people of pakistan,your agencies dont even have the basic technology for intelligence gathering,you are still living in 20th century,and you dare to speak about RAW,who has the trained agents from the best agencies of the world,the CIA,FSB(former KGB) and our best friend,MOSSAD,not like your stupid ISI,who has few idiots with big hair and beard,and dressed in salwar kurtas!and i dont think so you know about NTRO,worlds most advanced technical intelligence agency,which we have,not pakistan,so dont sound stupid anymore while posting on sites without knowing the facts!jai hind and keep **** pakistan!

kuta apko pata ha ka pakistan isi 8 intelligence agency ka muqabala karaha ha. raw ko to pata ba nahe hota ka os ka sat keya hora ha. ISI to sara dunya ka sat game kal raha ha. kabhe ye be jana ha ka afgahan, iraq, pallistine aor buht sa momalik ma isi ken agencyo ka sat game kal raha ha. pakistan ka maashe halat kharab huna ka bawajood ISI pakistan ka sara nezam kes tara sambal raha ha

Really, Americans are still in Afghanistan.

you are saying your county is a islamic republic of pakistan its totally wrong your country is always and ever "the terrorist republic of pakistan"

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  • VIPIN HONDA wrote on August 2013

u mean to say ur more experienced than mossad...hahahaha..it means you can support ambiquiously solidarity movement in polland with the name of cia AND collapse an empire like soviet union and remain silent for ever..for evrery blast that occurs in india you hear the resound in pakistan...to be frank i still think u belong to hindustan..literally meaning people living beloe hind kush mountains..but since u provoked it...ur of no match to mossad and our agency r& aw,which many citizens diont even knew it exists..thats the best part of intelligence agency..read sun tzu's art of war my brother....

Hello

Is ISI able to save Apkistan from floods? The condition of Pakistan is like jelly today they cant stand and they cant fall.ISI alqaeda talibans all these are are so much mixed tht its impossible to distinguish now.ISI got u pakistan to a wonderful era ,Enjoy with floods draughts,high oil prices Good luck

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  • shair wrote on February 2011

you should thank your bhagwan that pakistan is in this condition yet every one is afraid of isi if it was something stable every one would have gone sleepless esp you guys

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  • Bakhtiyaar ali wrote on December 2011

chal be chutiye,tum hamare rehte kabhi stable ho bhi nahi sakte

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  • VIPIN HONDA wrote on August 2013

COS U NEVER DEVELOPED NUCLEAR WEAPONS..U STOLE THEM FROM UK WITH THE HELP OF SO CALLED COPYING GENIUS ABDUL KHADEER KHAN AND THE ENTIRE WORLD KNOWS THAT AND U KNOW THE REASON WHY THEY WERE SILENT..COS U R JUST A PEICE OF ****..A PEICE OF LAND GIFTED BY US SO THAT THE INDIAN SUBCONTINENT RESTS IN PEACE ALAS STILL AFTER 67 YEARS YOU NEVER KNEW THE MEANING THE PEACE BUT U UNDERSTOOD IT AS PIECE

kya bat ki hai tu nay gashti k bachy. suna harmzadi randi kasi hai wo gashti jsy to maa kahta hai

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  • Daddy wrote on January 2011

All you punks who are critisizing ISI know ****. ISI exists and exists well, it has protected Pakistan internally and externally always and that';s the vary reason you **** cant take it. shove the comments up your asses u maniacs, RAW ? what is raw? It is RAW in real.

Oh Really! Then why is Pakistan a rogue nation now? Why can't ISI make Pakistan Terrorist free.

News alert!!! ISI actually created them. Now, ISI can't control them anymore.

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  • shair wrote on February 2011

we know what to do and when to do you just take care of your childs mommy

you guys dont know what to and when to do dude, that's the problem. I understand objective of ISI was to protect pak only, but is that the way?? training and supporting terrorists, using them against India n Afganistan.. This did no good to pak or isi, not any more than spoiling both of them's image in world.

if one thinks that World FEARS a terrorist or terrorist supporting organisation, i can assure you, you cant find a bigger Duffer than him. World just hates them, keeps silent because they can see what these organisations cant see "War and Voilence brings good to neither side"

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  • Sekhar Prudhvi wrote on May 2011

There is no need of argument as we can see how powerfull is ISI. They dont know even that OSAMA was hidden inside of pakistan. If they know then there is no question of seeing how good is ISI. They too are equal to Al-Qaeda.

every country looks for itz own benefit in it foreign policies including intelligence agencies...but what is the use if itz cozin mor harm to its own country...ISI s funding of anti- india terrorist groups haz cozed the rise of fanatic islamist groups in pakistan..they r themselves responsible for their problems..instead of jeoparding india..dey should have took care of their own affairs

ISI-----THE EAGLETS.

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  • Common man wrote on September 2011

come on guys.. none of us have any idea what really is being done by both the inteligence agencies.. are they working for our protection or just locked in a mutual power struggle.. I can only say for sure that if these two agencies are as good as u guys claim than why do so many innocent people in both our countries lose their lives in terrorist attacks.. Instead of pointing fingers at each other , we should point fingers at our respective agencies for failure to protect its citizens. Which is why they exist.. Right!!

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  • M shafip sandhu wrote on October 2011

ISI is world,s most powerfull spy agency and doing very well for the security of its own nation and world knows it very well that pakistan is in dangerous situation.

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  • habib wrote on December 2011

isi is the worlds most **** agency(sorry not agency,its just a bunch of beard man in salwar kurtas),and pakistan is the world's most funny country,with funny citizens

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  • buddhnepal wrote on January 2012

india pak both of u kill the enemy poverty, high price, ilitration,tererism,food, medicine, be frendly both of u good isi and raw both are powerful both can save their own country enjoy the life ..brotherhood best

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  • THE EAGLETS wrote on April 2012

Chalo india ne jo ukharna hai ukhare, hum indians ko chod kar k rakh denge,

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  • THE EAGLETS wrote on April 2012

Pata nahi ye Indians Q ISI se itna darti hai, 125 crore abadi wala mulk 18 crore wale se itna darta hai k shalwar main peshab rawana hojata hai jab ISI ka nam sun le.

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  • THE EAGLETS wrote on April 2012

OH hindustan walo,,,,Hafiz Saeed the great is coming for next task, ho sake to gharo se nikalna chor do, aiwee kutte ki mor mar jao ge, beghairto.

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  • THE EAGLETS wrote on April 2012

One day ISI will sink indians, will eradicate indians from map forever InshahAllah, we dont want any relation with Indians,,,

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  • VIPIN HONDA wrote on August 2013

U NEVER HAD ANY RELATIONS U RELIGIOUS MANIAC..WE HAD THATS Y UR STILL ALIVE AND IF THE ISRAELIS THINK IN THE SAME WAY THERE WONT BE ANY ARAB WORLD REMEMBER THAT.....IF THEY CAN STEAL A MIG 21 FROM UR AIR FORCE..JUST IMAGINE HOW DOWNTRODDEN YOU ARE...SPOILING PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISM..MY BEST FRINEDS ARE ISLAM BUT THEY PRACTISE TRUE ISLAM...LOVING PEOPLE BUT NOT PROVOKING PEOPLE AGAINST OTHERS...

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  • VIPIN HONDA wrote on August 2013

UR AIR FORCE MEANS FROM EGYPT YOU DUMB ****.. I THOUGHT U WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO RECALL THATS WHY THIS ADDITIONAL COMMENT........

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  • THE EAGLETS wrote on April 2012

Hamare sath company main bohat indians kam karte hai approx more than 15o guys, aor hum Pakistani sirf 25 hain, lekin phir b hum se unki gaand path thee hai,,,,ye hai hindustan walo k karname in abroad,,,,,

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  • Ali Khan wrote on April 2012

DO you know Nato and ISAF wears pampers in Afghanistan because they can not come out in front of Taliban and Mujahiddin. Same is the case with Indians and RAW when they face Pakistan and ISI. Non Muslims fear death!!

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  • Khan Turi wrote on July 2013

You all people are fool again and again by all these

CIA and other kind of secret agency .that 2 divide and rule forever...

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  • Agent Z wrote on November 2013

Pakistan's agencies are working against almost 10 agencies and is going successfull in all counter intelligence operations in Pakistan and in all over the world. Isi is 100 times stronger than Indian agencies.

so dear Indians, shut the **** up. u don't even know how to install a spyware in Pakistani landline network.

but Pakistan ISI had arranged to do it. so enjoy your systems hacked & tracked by out cyber agents!!

Pakistan Zindabaadd!

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  • sandeep wrote on November 2013

hey all dudes ! what r we arguing about? what is the outcome of the ISI's supposed success? 1) dismemberment of pakistan and creation of bangladesh. 2) the defeat of the taliban hegemony in afghanistan.. today at best the taliban is just one of several players in Af. 3)the virtual anarchy in pakistan thru internal terrorism.. so much so that no politician.. no leader.. no VIP and no ordinary pakistani is safe from their home grown jihadis....

so with all these "successes" the ISI should first focus on saving pakistan from itself.. before taking on india, US or anyone else ! no ?

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  • Ramesh wrote on April 2014

**** india, **** raw.... cow **** eaters

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